Hi folks,
why has the DS3 Cleric weaker combat proficiencies than the dnd 3.5 standard? (I’m talking about armor and shield proficiencies).
Cheers

Are you also taking into account the extra proficiencies that the cleric gets from domains?

The 3.5 cleric could be butt naked and still be better than the other classes. I wouldn’t worry about it to much.

Could be, some are. You should read about Forgotten Realms “Sharess”. But anyway, most still need that Holy-symbol.

I’m quite familar with FR clerics and Sharess. Liked her alot in 2nd ed Faith and Avatars. Had a female player and we were kinda sweet on her and she really liked cats and Bast/Sharesss is also the goddess of cats in FR.
I owuld like to see DS clerics removed away form the core cleric alot more. Earth maybe gets medium armor, the others get light armor and some class abilities or something like that.

@Kamelion: Which proficiencies? Domain powers also exist in 3.5 standard. And you proficient in one special weapon because of your deity. That means that you’ve got one weapon proficiency more in DS3 and two extra class skills. But that hardly matchs the mentioned armor and shield proficiencies. Or is there something I haven’t seen?

No, those are the ones I was referring to. You’re right that it’s far less than the standard D&D cleric. It might be the case that this has been rectified in the upcoming r7. Otherwise I’d houserule some changes.

The cleric will have the same proficiencies as the PHB cleric in R7. The R6 cleric had armor and shield proficiencies from domains – a flavor element that we´ve changed in R7 to make the clerics more balanced.

Its a good idea Jon. The bonus armor proficiencies didn’t make much sense as domain abilities.