Cleric Question
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Hi folks, |
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Are you also taking into account the extra proficiencies that the cleric gets from domains? |
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The 3.5 cleric could be butt naked and still be better than the other classes. I wouldn’t worry about it to much. |
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Could be, some are. You should read about Forgotten Realms “Sharess”. But anyway, most still need that Holy-symbol. |
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I’m quite familar with FR clerics and Sharess. Liked her alot in 2nd ed Faith and Avatars. Had a female player and we were kinda sweet on her and she really liked cats and Bast/Sharesss is also the goddess of cats in FR. |
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@Kamelion: Which proficiencies? Domain powers also exist in 3.5 standard. And you proficient in one special weapon because of your deity. That means that you’ve got one weapon proficiency more in DS3 and two extra class skills. But that hardly matchs the mentioned armor and shield proficiencies. Or is there something I haven’t seen? |
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No, those are the ones I was referring to. You’re right that it’s far less than the standard D&D cleric. It might be the case that this has been rectified in the upcoming r7. Otherwise I’d houserule some changes. |
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The cleric will have the same proficiencies as the PHB cleric in R7. The R6 cleric had armor and shield proficiencies from domains – a flavor element that we´ve changed in R7 to make the clerics more balanced. |
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Its a good idea Jon. The bonus armor proficiencies didn’t make much sense as domain abilities. |
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I’ve got a question about the granted power of the Earthen Embrace domain. Maybe I’m out line but what the hell is “your depth underground” ???? If somebody can explain it to me, I’ll be happy! Thank’s. |
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Boiquouily, |
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Ah! I feel stupid! Thank’s sysane! |
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Zaardnar, from a setting perspective it made kind of sense at one point (no heavy armor for freedom loving air clerics etc), but the imbalance and added complexity were undesired. |
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@ Jon: You wrote that the Cleric will have the same proficiencies in ds3.r7 as the cleric of the core rules. Now, I’ve seen that he hasn’t. A mistake or on purpose? |
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That´s an error. Will be corrected in illustrated version. |
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I realize that I’m a bit late and most have probably gone to 4th Ed by now, but the Cleric hs always been one of the main reasons I can’t get into Darksun. Going back into the older editions stuff, the class is pretty confussing as to what they get, and seemed very restricted morally to what the DM felt a cleric should act like (elementally). |
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Have you read the 2e Dark Sun accessory Earth, Air, Water & Fire and the 3.5 Dark Sun Core rules? Both do a great job describing how an elemental cleric can be role played. |
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No, I get that. I’ve been using the stuff from Dungeon and Dragon mags. and reading the old school boxed set stuff I got a while. I’m not trying to run your BBQ, just elpful suggestions. I guess what I am saying is that the Dark Sun Cleric has always suffered the ago old 3.0 problem that a fire priest, for example, is just not very fiery. In one sense it is even worse in Dark Sun but in another they are slightly better. The Dark Sun Domains do a better job of making the Elemental priest more “Elemental”, but the mechanics of the base Cleric just do not work very well. This is not a Dark Sun thing. The entire concept of Domains means that they really get 1 fire spell per spell level, and sometimes not even that. Druids just do a better job of being a elemental priest, because they get a lot of “elemetal spells” on their class list. |
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I see where you’re coming from now. Having clerics not being able to spontaneously cast cure or inflict spells, but having them spontaneously cast any spell on their chosen domain spell lists would be step in making them “more elementally” attuned. |
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You could do that and it would be a huge improvment for the class. |
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Hey Beckett, have you checked out the elementalist prestige class on r7 yet? |