Ahahahaha, that got a rise out of everyone!
@Killer_DM Don’t forget, I’m the anti-magic pro-psionics type. I would rejoice in the complete and total destruction of magic and complete ascendance of psionics, chi, and science/lifeshaping in any D&D setting. If the preservers want to really help preserve Athas, then they are better off to give up magic completely and convert totally to psionics anyway.
We don’t need no stinking magic.
However, in the interests of harmony with the PLAYERS of the game, I’m willing to let the existence of magic slide, and work towards making it much more restricted, the way Gygax intended in the first place… such as when he added components to magic, as described in his comments on why he did so in early Dragon magazine. (in brief, it was to force magic to be delayed and provide a window for non-magic types to interrupt the cast, thus having a built in option for defending against magic, and also a built in reason for why magic types needed minions to give them time to cast. )
Of course, Gygax also didn’t want psionics or monks in his “medieval fantasy” game either since he felt those things didn’t fit his conception of Greyhawk style D&D, but since he kindly allowed psionics and monks to remain anyway in the game as a whole, and since Dark Sun is specifically pro-psionic, I get to ignore that part, for the purposes of Athas at least. =D
So, yes, I completely don’t care if I can pull off nerfing preservers and especially defilers alike, along with all arcane and divine magic users, especially if it helps the Dark Sun game become more that 50% psionic the way it’s supposed to be in the first place. I’m in favor of spells taking one standard action per spell level to cast, for example. That reminds me that Synchronicity still needs to be addressed.
In any case, my willingly accept comments can still be taken advantage of by a clever villain via threats to one’s weaknesses in order to convince a foe to capitulate… (oh noes, actually encouraging roleplaying via the rules, what ever shall we do???)
Just for the record, I’m never going to come down in favor of something that strips agency from a player (or character) without their consent.
For example, I don’t allow mind control or charm effect type save-or-suck in my games. Hypnosis gets a pass because it doesn’t function without consent, so ‘charm’ and ‘mind control’ are things that can only be applied after successful roleplaying and submission (to various degrees) by the target. In other words, if you can convince the target to submit to you, THEN you can lay in a subliminal suggestion (charm) or order (mind control).
Thus it also applies to Baleful Polymorph. A clever villain or PC will still be able to pull it off, despite the consent restriction. And it makes the game more interesting and less save or suck or die.