Dregoth as a Real God

Just a random thought:

Let us say that Dregoth succeeded, and became a Real God.

How would that affect his templars? Would he be able to give more granted powers, then? Different spells? Would his spell list not change because it is currently “All”, due to the Living Vortex?

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Dregoth’s templars would become clerics. And I suppose as the uncontested god, Dregoth would be the god of everything. All portfolios.

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I don’t think anything would change for his templar’s other than becoming clerics and gaining some divine domains.

The big thing is the Dregoth would now get power from his worshippers.

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I don’t know if I’d go with “all portfolios”… he’s still Dregoth, and isn’t going to suddenly get the “love and happiness” portfolio, nor become the patron god of Giants. Portfolios aren’t sitting around some divine waiting room waiting to be picked up.

He’d be unique deity, to be sure. He’d be the only one who could get more powerful through worship, and he’d have Greater Deity level power granting because of his Living Vortex, even though his deific power is probably more demi-god level (the population of Guistenal isn’t big).

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And with deification being busted open would it allow the other SKs the become gods as well?

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Possibly (one of those “depends on the campaign” sorts of things, I suppose). I would be inclined to require them to do something to enable it… they don’t become deities by default, but can if they travel to the right places. But that would mean disappearing for a while, which some of them are unlikely to do.

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It is possible. In Dregoth Ascending, Dregoth has to go to the Outer Planes to receive the power of his worships through his newly constructed divine conduit. If the conduit is an open path for anyone, I guess if the Sorcerer Monarch’s could relocate to the Outer Planes, then they could become gods too.

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He’d likely pick up where Rajaat left off with cleansing non-humans from Athas and forcing humans to become dray and his worshipers.

Paraphrasing here, but he thought Rajaat had the right idea, just that halflings weren’t to inherit Athas but the dray.

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Yeah, I think it’d be more a personal boost for Dregoth himself - more fully immortal (especially under 2e rules)/less bound to a physical body, able to get around the limit of his undeath-impeded metamorphosis, wider senses/ability to perceive the multiverse, etc.

He would likely get an Outer Plane realm and the ability to obtain the souls of his followers at death, though that’s maybe not guaranteed with the Gray, especially if he became one of those demideities with the Prime as his home plane.

Templars have pretty broad spell access, I’m not sure they’d really gain that much.

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In 2E templars have the broadest spell access, but in 3.5e in which the Dregoth Ascending campaign takes place, templars are spontaneous casters with a narrow spell list.

What I see templars gaining is Granted Powers.

Right now, aside from command undead, their granted powers are all real-world, legal stuff. You could make a kit called “Templar” and give them that, and a fighter would make a perfectly fine templar, even though they wouldn’t have spells.

But if Dregoth is an actual god? He could start granting them powers from his own divinity. And he could be relatively lavish, because he wouldn’t need to worry about granting them spells, because that happens without his own power.

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It would also open the door for other divine classes that didn’t exist on Athas previously. Anti-paladin’s of the Dread God anyone?

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Ah, good point! Yeah I was thinking 2e rules.

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Dregoth’s portfolio as a deity would probably be something like “the dray, undeath, planar travel, the city of New Giustenal”. His domains would probably be Death, Evil, Magic, maybe Knowledge.