Genasi of Athas

What are your thoughts of the Genasi as a race for Athas? Have you used them? How do you think common folk would view them? How would uncommon folk view them?

I have never used them and I don’t think I ever will. In my opinion, they just don’t have the Dark Sun feel I’m going for in my game. They’re too fantastical with their innate magical abilities. I like my games to be normalish people struggling against vastly superior foes. That way, every tiny victory feels like a huge win.

No, I haven’t used them, though I’ve played with the idea. I’m with @Rajaat99 on this one, they’re a bit too fantastic for my taste.

Have you seen the article in Dragon 396 called ā€˜Winning Races: Genasi of Athas’?

It contains most of the information you’re after.

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I’ve seen the article, I just wanted to get people’s opinions and foster some discussion.

I have used them both when I first started in DS and then later after years of experience. The biggest problems I had were how they affect tone and how they fit in a low magic setting. From a tone standpoint you need to dial back the Al Qadim effect to something that fits into Athas. So my recommendations are to

  1. Figure out why genie’s exist in Athas and what are their goals both cosmologically and locally
  2. Figure out what the sorceror-king’s opinion of genasi are and how they would use them. THEY WOULD USE THEM.
  3. Figure out how dreary gritty Athas has changed them from a world view/ character way
  4. Figure out if they are psionically gifted or if you want to limit that.
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For me:

  1. Genie’s are part of the elemental war ongoing for Athas, but are limited by elemental lords in how much they interfere. So a genie works for an elemental lord, but genie kind are not allowed to present an organized approach to Athas.
  2. Genasi are gifted individuals to be used as tools or crushed. Some city states prefer them off the board entirely and would kill on sight. They need to cover up any outward signs of their parentage, and their magic is no better understood than a preservers.
  3. Cross the loneliness and lack of culture that a half elf has with the struggle to stay hidden of a preserver.
  4. Strictly non-psionic which is a hardship in a psionic world.

As I continue my work on the ā€œgenieā€ issue in Athas, and mold my Athasian genies which I have dubbed enochol enochol thread , it remains for me to decide upon Athasian half-genies, or to reframe, the ā€œgenasiā€ of Planescape as they might be on Athas. In short, I believe these shall be the children of my enochol, as this seems the most appropriate.

As far as the ukoven go, these will remain separate beings, human in origin I think, but significantly altered by the energies of Euripis. They are their own monstrous compendium entry, I think, and when empowered by their island’s energies, are considerably more powerful than common genasi.

I think genasi make more sense than most of the ā€œstandardā€ races. A very close version of Athas would have them as standard races, or use them as templates for them (elves as air genasi, for example).

But, in practice, I don’t see them as being much a part of Athas. There might be one-off characters who are genasi, or you might adapt them into somethat that happens to high-level clerics or druids, but they don’t have a current place in the lore (that I know of).

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FWIW, there’s currently a lot of work being dine by the PT team right now in both the Elemental Overloads book and Races of Athas on genasi, ukoven, and other elemental/human hybrids.

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Now picturing para and quasi-elemental genasi. A Magma genasi. Silt genasi. Maybe a halfling rain genasi?

As Adam said, we are working on the genasi and ukoven (which are a special case of genasi), both elemental, para elemental and quasi elemental

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Seems like the genasi would fit into the half outsider slot for Athas. Given that so many things tie into the elemental lords and planes, i would think them as mortals who have given up half their mortality to serve the elemental lords and be adapted to survive. It would become one of the few seemingly legit ways to ā€œescapeā€ from Athas, the SKs, and mortal drudgery.

Of course, i would prefer the elemental lords and the genasi to be purely psionic, as there is way too much magic in a supposedly high psionic low magic world (SKs and Templars notwithstanding, they are exceptions).

Hmmm… quasi-psionic variant on the Way based around the elements?

No quasi about it?

Hydrokinetic
Lithokinetic
Pyrokinetic
Aerokinetic

(And then the the magic nation attacked) :rofl:

But seriously, we officially already have 5 energy kinetics, and 4 elemental psionic mantles, shouldn’t be that hard to polish up a bit.

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I’m guessing these are 3e things? These elemental kinesis powers and mantles?